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to admit president obama is actually leading mitt romney right now. despite what the polling data shows. well, stephen colbert weighed in. >> you can't trust polls, right fox news? >> the latest fox news polls give president obama an edge in three key swing states. once you isolate voters who are extremely interested in the election, the race is much closer. >> romney's tied when you focus on the inexpressibly intrigued. and he's up by two points when you count only voters who are psychotically engaged. folks, i have got my own source of polls, conservative blogger dean chambers who analyzed these polls favoring obama and then reached the scientific conclusion that they just didn't look right. chambers' work throws all polls into doubt now. even the internal ones i have taken of myself. i mean, the results say i'm not that excited about mitt romney, but as a conservative i feel like i should love him. maybe the sample size is too small or maybe i checked the wrong box and i'm actually latino, you know? >> it's not a good sign just six weeks from election day to bash the polls. >>> the f
papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuck in that little basement where they cut medicare. >> well, mitt romney was on the campaign trail today saying, i have a little secret, i'm going to win pennsylvania. okay. he's not going to win pennsylvania. >> it's the oldest state in the union. >> he's not going to win pennsylvania with paul ryan's profile on medicare or budget cutting or anything else. so if mitt romney is serious about making a play in pennsylvania, that just underscores how inconvenient paul ryan has become. look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they kno
, right. well, one, you a situation where, you know, mitt romney apparently has all these memorized zingers that he's going to unleash on the president tomorrow, but then, what you don't hear folks talk about is, once the zinger has been thrown out there, then what? so he lays out and says energy independence, well when the follow-up question comes, what's the there there, what are the specifics? paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this campaign, i think will get louder. >> nate, you're a man of numbers. a prognosticator, what is your bet? george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risk
out. >> and paul ryan had to give ten years of his returns to romney. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strategy in pennsylvania suffered a big loss in court today. joy reid will join me on that. by bright eyes you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. it will be a dollar saved by somebody who switched to esurance. like, dollar karma. being online, esurance saves dollars that come back as more dollars for you. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. esurance. now backed by allstate. boproductivity up, costs down, thtime to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> i could have shown mitt romney months ago how to win tomorrow's debate. but i waited until tonight because i know it's way too late to try to teach mitt romney new lines for the big event.
on energy and education on the right way to fix the deficit. romney's approach is the wrong approach on taxes on deficit on wall street reform, on medicare and healthcare. >> eliot: on "good morning america," comedian jon stewart said he tried the same strategy in an upcoming debate with bile o'reilly. >> strategy that obama took, it is the rope-a-dope but instead of letting your opponent punch himself out you just get beat up. >> eliot: ouch. piling insult on top of self-inflicted injury, john sununu told msnbc's andrea mitchell -- >> what people saw last night i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is. >> did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> eliot: wow. asked if sununu's comments had overtones, it seems that way. obama's senior adviser david axelrod thinks romney's say what works strategy will ultimately work against him. >> eliot: which had better mean
romney. >>> right now, some morning rain hanging around just enough to slow you down. >> tom kierein out on the storm 4 team weather deck this morning. >> just enough rain for an umbrella. getting just a few sprinkles here at northwest right now. the air is thick with humidity. it stayed humid overnight from yesterday. as we take a look at the storm team 4 radar, right now we are getting these passing showers moving from the southwest toward the northeast. these will be with us here perhaps for another couple of hours. they're moving fairly quickly off to the north and east, and right now right around the metro area, we have those showers a little bit heavier to our south in charles county and in prince george's and it is certainly a muggy morning. 60s farther west at north. throughout the rest of the day today, we'll have some sunshine breaking out and highs reaching near 80 this afternoon. delightful pattern tomorrow, could get some showers maybe on saturday afternoon and evening and perhaps into early sunday morning. then a greater chance of some showers on sunday with the temperature
at the camera, deliver to people in the living room. president obama's looking off. mitt romney did it the right way. >> right way. >> he looked at the camera, looks you in the eye, tells you what he thinks. >> he wasn't being nice. >> no. >> the thing that is obama -- i hate to say, the politics of niceness, you're admitting your opponent has legitimate points. . it's not great in an american society where stylistic connection means you're willing to defend your point with a pointed passion but also to argue with the other guy. mitt romney was there saying i'm give nothing quarter. he admitted obama did something halfway right the rest of the time he was condescending. i have five sons, you might as well be the sixth, i'm going to tell you what you're doing wrong. there was no opposition, quite disturbing. >> governor romney seized moment to speak to independent swing voters in the swing states time after time. you can tell it was practiced, prepared, i know what this debate's. this will be the decisive part of the electorate. each time he spoke to that, those who can still be swayed, as my fri
sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> does romney like you? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. on the way to denver. let me start with this brand new nbc/wall street journal poll out tonight. what it shows in addition to an obama leading that's hardening is a deep concern that mitt romney said about that 47% of the country he says can't be counted on to meet its responsibility. it's that part of the country that romney has dismissed as free-loaders, moochers, takers. people, especially veteran families, people retired on social security, regular americans, that is, don't like being dismissed that way, injury added by insult. i'm joined by chuck todd and howard fineman with "the huffington post." the latest poll shows among likely voters the president leads 49% to 46% for romney. that's down net two points from two weeks ago when the president was up by five. to what to you attribute the movement, chuck todd? >> well, first of all, the more important number has always been the president sitting at 49% or 50%. i would go through his job approval
are probably working a little bit against us and more for mitt romney right now. at the end of the day, i think that the winner is going to be declared by the american people based on what these two candidates say and who lays out a vision for the future. some specifics and policy details. the president has been having this conversation with the american people for some time. this is what we spent our convention doing, laying out where we've been as a country, the values that drive the president, where he wants to go in the future. i think what's been missing with mitt romney is exactly that, those details, those policies of where he wants to take this country. i think tonight offers an opportunity for him to fill some of that in. >> if you listen to his surrogates, they'll say and he's going to take that opportunity. if you look at, for example, cnn's poll of polls, you see the race tightening a little bit with president obama at 49% for likely voters choice for president and romney at 46%. last cnn polling before this poll came out had the president up by six points. are you concerned about t
of themselves. >> you look at this analytical, only three or four breaks, romney would be ahead right now, breaks going to obama's side. the romney performance overseas when he blew that thing with cameron. the masterful performance by bill clinton where he reset the clock on the economy. of course, this 47%. these breaks have been going toward obama, haven't they? i mean, i can't think the last time romney got a break. >> reporter: no, really not since -- you have to go back, i would say, to may or june at the earliest to come up with a time where you feel like romney was controlling the narrative, controlling the tempo of this campaign. and then, you're right, didn't catch a break. it starts with the health care ruling at the end of june that somehow goes obama's way and then it marched through july, he takes a week off. a lot of people question that. then he ends up doing this overseas trip, as you point out. they blew their convention. blew an opportunity there. one thing about romney is he's had more experience going into a big debate behind than any other candidate at this point in
the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it? >> that's right. mitt romney has shown us that the 47% can actually be the 1% -- or rather the 1% can be the 47%. when you look at how he has been able to shelter tens of millions of dollars in income, he probably has an interest right now in 12 different entities that are worth somewhere in the range of $30 million in cayman islands and other overseas -- >> bermuda, switzerland. >> and elsewhere. and you look at why these things are ripping taxpayers off to the tune of about $100 billion a year. it's because the rules on passive income like dividend and interest are different. the rules on deductions are totally different. the rules on unrelated business expenses where he has a lot -- some people say between somewhere between $30 million and $100 million in his i.r.a. which has shelters from taxes and you have to use qis, qualified intervenors for the irs. the irs can't even get basic information about the investment. you have all these questions about how did he have $3 million in foreign income in the year 2009 and paid i believe it was 20
romney can give all of these voters an excuse to vote for him, right? >> yeah, we talked about this yesterday on the show. if he can go in -- that's why i worry about all this talk about zingers, just stylistically. don't be someone you're not. don't come in with canned jokes. be who you are, which is the line he delivered, i thought, well in his convention speech where he said, i can't heal the earth. i'm not going to part the seas, whatever he said. i just want to help you and your family. i'm not fancy, i'm not exciting. i want this job because i can do a better job healing the economy, not the earth, healing the economy than he has done for the last 3 1/2 years. if he can do that, be confident, don't try to be slick or funny, it's not who you are, just be mitt romney, he'll have a good night. >> i think he'll have a good night. i'll tell you this also, mark mckinnon. we're going to hear about the 47% from barack obama tonight. he'll bring that up. i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by
as a sledgehammer, right? today the national chairman of the romney campaign got even less subtle than newt. hold on. that's coming up. >>> nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell interviewed a lot of scary people and dictators and ego maniacs over the years and over the years from doing that, she has endured these scary people and dictators and ego maniacs saying crazy things to her in close proximity. but also she has endured worse. >> when rice tried to challenge sudan's president omar al bashir, his security aides -- the security men tried to stop us from covering a photo opportunity. >> no. no. no. we don't let cameras into -- oh! >> reporter: when i asked sudan's president a question -- can you tell us why the government is still supporting the militias? they grabbed me from behind and dragged me out. >> when things like this happen to andrea mitchell because she is such a pro, she is totally zen through the whole thing. she does not crack up, doesn't yell at people. she doesn't let her jaw drop to the floor. he doesn't do a loony tunes style split take. andrea mitchell maint
of the union with candy crowley starts right now. >>> romney's chance to shake things up may come down to four and a half hours. >>> today this week's denver debate. the first of three 09-minute faceoffs. obama versus romney. >> how is it that you're the expert on my position when my position has been very clear? i'll tell you -- >> i'm the expert. i'm the expert, and i'm -- >> when he suggests that senator obama's plan is dangerous -- >> that's not the case. what he said was a precipitous withdrawal would be dangerous. he did not say -- >> he said -- >> sizing up the showdown with a man who has debated both 2012 candidates republican senator john mccain, and then the risk of being the frontrunner with obama's senior advisor david axelrod. plus, polls, ads, and early voting. with republican strategist alex castellanos, and cinderella and congressional correspondent dana bash. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." >>> it would not be debate season if the political world and the campaigns didn't play the expectations game. >> the president is obviously a very eloquent, gifted speaker.
't help thinking about what's going on with mitt romney right now, mitt romney running for president and for most of his campaign been talking about one single issue the economy the economy, the economy. >> i think president obama is talking about something else that's bigger, leadership. mitt romney hasn't been talking about leadership. the thing that happens in these debates is do they give us a moment, do they give us one particular moment where we know that the argument for this candidate is working or the argument against this candidate is working. there were big moments over the last 40-50 years of televised debates. john kennedy and richard nixon how nixon loft because he didn't wear make up and looked like he didn't shave. they thought he was dark and smarmy. turns out they were right, he was. >> whether was the al gore sigh, over and over again. [ sighs ] >> exactly. before that debate, al gore was five points ahead of george burke, after the sigh, he stalled out and george bush still lost that election, but he closed in close enough for the supreme court to make the call at
'm going to ignore him. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set this up first for mike barnicle. we've all been saying the same thing. phone calls coming in last night from my democratic friends, independent friends, republicans, everybody's been asking the same thing, where did this come from? we've never seen this mitt romney before, but you say you have. >> yes, this is how mitt romney became governor of massachusetts in 2002 during a series of debates. he was exactly this way as he was last night. he came in prepared. he had a plan. he executed it. he was armed with specific information. he went right at the opponent. then it was shannon o'brien running for governor
suit together, and that to me ishurdle right now for romney, the idea is he in touch with the average american. i think that's why he's stuck in the mid-40s. >> not everything he's said has been malignant but his cavalier way of saying let's bet $10,000 to gov perry or referring to everybody who might not have health insurance and need emergency care as living in an apartment. it's a view as if it's all urban people. it's not evil but it's a lack of perspective about life in the main american experience, howard. >> well, yes, and the obama campaign very shrewdly and systematically from the beginning, as chuck said, has focused on what they were convinced was romney's big weakness, and it's turned out to be just that. chuck mentioned taxes. you mentioned the $10,000 bet. also bain capital, it was the obama campaign that so far has told the story of bain capital, not mitt romney. and what the obama campaign has said about bain capital has reinforced the same notion about a guy playing with big money who doesn't understand the average lives of average people. as i have said repeatedly on
christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the romney campaign, they are looking to bring the game to president obama. he has to do offense and defense, very tricky in the first debate, and i think he's well prepared. he may surprise some people. >> mark, i want you to talk to me about all of the national polls we have gotten in the last 24 hours. cnn, politico, abc post, they all have something in common. what are we seeing here that's good for obama and what are we seeing here that's good for romney? >> what's good for obama is he's hitting 50%, where you need to be. if obama wins, it's going to be with numbers like those. if i'm mitt romney, i'm liking the fact the race is tightening a little bit. the question is whether this is natural tightening or is mitt romney really making a move right now? >> you know, one thing i
. right? we know one way mr. romney may be trying to neutralize expected attacks on his economic ideas could be to rob his opponent's words of any meaning, right? now we also know after last night's debate is the other thing he's doing is just saying the economic plan he has been stumping for all year long is not his plan at all. mr. romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was runn
of understanding the historical context of what happened last night when mitt romney beat president obama in this first debate, this is the universe of like things to compare it to. this is how to understand it in terms of american political history. it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of being the president of the united states facing off against some non-president who wants their job. that only happens once per president. and these are the only times that has happened on tv in our nation's history. that's it. and this is the situation that president obama found himself in last night. it's only happened six other times in american history. so how did he do in historical context? there isn't that much historical context, right? like, this is a very knowable thing. honestly, that first one, that first one in 1976
a night of back- .nd-forth debate many say romney had the right tone. poll shows 67% of americans believe the republican local was the winner. the president's proposed policies, middle-income americans have been buried. i will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle-income families. the president fired back on economy, saying romney taxes and not add to the deficit without hurting the middle class. for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. now, five weeks before the says his big bold idea is never mind. >> when talking about what cuts recommend, the reformnt's health care plan took center stage. >> obamacare is on my list. i used the term with all respect. it's if you repeal obamacare, happens is those seniors pay six under dollars more in prescription care. $600 more. >> they will meet again face-to- on october 16 and october 22. carter,g live, brianne abc 7. supporters of both candidates parties in the d.c. area. them shared their feelings about the candidates. a local obama supporter felt the president was a better of the middle local romney supporter said that he gav
it means the candidate can't star in the ads. right. we could go mitt romney event and film romney footage. would we getting the same things the news crew get. we can't shoot an ad of romney talks to the call are a why he'll be the best president. what it does is the anticoordination laws they almost make all the outside group negative because at that point you know we're not coordinating with barack obama to run a negative ad about him. we were to run a poz ad about mitt romney people would question where you get the footage from. in 2010 cross roads ran an ad supportive of now senator rob portman in the ohio senate race, we had pulled the video food age from a public i are available place youtube. -- [inaudible] within the fcc over something silly perversely the campaign laws have created a situation there's a lot of contrast advertising because of the prohibition. >> the committee is due. the economic their inexpect arms they doing a bunch of comparative ads. they don't coordinate each of the candidates is throwing the information on the party website. democrats, republicans same thing.
with us. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight ahead with the latest numbers. we've got a lot to get to. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. >> i want you to know that, also, i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ [ male announcer ] h
. when he's rallying the base, romney throws out red meat for the right. but when he's interviewed by the mainstream press, he tries to give his kinder, gentler side. last night romney told the "denver post" he would honor president obama's work permit program for children of illegal immigrants. that contradicts the extreme position he took during the gop debates. >> if you don't deport them, how do you send them home? >> the answer is self-deportation. people decide they can do better going home, because they can't find work here because they don't have documentation to find work here. >> when he's talking to the base, he's clear about what he would do to the president's health care law. >> if i'm president, i will repeal obama care. i will repeal obama care. we're going to get rid of obama care. >> just listen to what he told nbc news about his own health care record. >> don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 10 0% of the kids in my state have health insurance. i don't think anything shows more empathy and care for the people of this country than that kind of record.
about the federal. but i heard mitt romney say states' rights. is it the right of the state to come into the cities and overthrow the local municipalities? if that is big government, small government. i do not know. i think they should have the right to control their own destiny in their own city. it is on the ballot in november. and i am telling everybody in michigan to a vote it down. we did not need dictatorship. it is a dictator bill. host: thank you. on twitter -- the government to do its job, maintain the general welfare. from debate news, the numbers are and on how many watched on television. more than 67 million watched the first presidential debate. nearly 16 more watched four years ago for about 12 of the 67 who watched president obama square off against mitt romney were between 18-34. fox news channel average 10.4 million viewers. a big improvement over 8.2. cnn clock about 6.1 million. this number of course does not include the numbers of people who watched on the internet or their mobile devices. and also c-span is not included in the ratings. those are the basic number
? >> romney needs to articulate a plan as to what he is going to do to change america. pat's right, he has to make himself accessible to the american people. beyond that, unless people get a sense that he has a clear alternative vision for the country and specific approaches to get there, he will not succeed. >>gregg: was the romney campaign watching "campaign insiders" that day? more on that ahead. >>heather: october is anti-bullying month and a horrifying case of bullying a young girl allegedly tormented by a grown man. my doctor told me calcium is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. olaf's pizza palace gets the most rewards of any small business crit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, everday! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve the most rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capitalne. choose unlim
look at florida right now where the candidates, where mitt romney is campaigning north of orlando. look at this, florida, 49% right now to 47%, that's big bump from where president obama was leading mitt romney in the all important swing state. >> yeah, governor romney and his wife were down in florida yesterday campaigning hard and getting a pretty good reception. let's look at ann romney with some of the voters yesterday. >> every year, the median income in america-- >> and you are a tremendous asset to your husband. >> i appreciate that. you know, i-- we're doing everything we can, my boys, myself just out there working as hard as we can. >> well, i really believe that your husband is going to be-- i think they will have as much as ronald reagan did, he's going to do bet. >> i felt that for a long time. >> well, the wives of course in in race have high approval rating and favor ann romney and favor michelle obama, the wives are a huge asset. >> and president obama was off the campaign trail yesterday and finally celebrating his wedding anniversary, as you know fell on the night of th
advice this morning on fox and friends. take a listen. >> what romney should be doing right now is watching ronald reagan take apart jimmy carter. now, with this caveat; president obama much quicker than jimmy carter, much. however, the way reagan did it was authoritative but kind of folksy. you've got to take the edge off a little bit -- >> no. >> but you've got to be a little bold and fresh out there. but you've got to do it with more of a twinkle in your eye. if he shows malice, he'll lose. jenna: we'll see what our next guest thinks about that. it's one of governor romney's former debate coaches, brett o'donnell. he's the president of donnell and associates. in addition to coaching governor romney, he's worked with john mccain and president george w. bush. nice to have you on the program. >> good to be with you. jenna: for some of our viewers, how does one become an expert debate coach? did you start out on the debate team in high school? how did you become a coach? >> well, you know, i was in the right place at the right time. i didn't debate until i got to college, and the
. that means something has gone horribly awry. >> so perhaps we're talking to nobody right now. >> stephanie: maybe. hey, guess what we're having jen psaki on the show. and it's so weird because i brought sushi today. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: mitt romney says the debate is not about winning. >> oh. [ applause ] >> stephanie: that's because he is going to lose. >> all right. take care then. bye-bye. >> the lakes. the end of the lakes. pancakes. >> stephanie: yeah, he is just going to be shouting objects at that point. all right. the president. >> obama: who is going to put the most points on the board? [ cheers ] >> obama: no, no, governor romney, he is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> consider your expectations lowered. >> stephanie: all right. >> how low can you go? >> stephanie: karen in virginia you are on the "stephanie miller show." hi karen. >> hi, miss stephanie. how are you. >> stephanie: good. okay. >> caller: it is pouring down rain here in virginia. cantor's tears because wayne powell came out swinging in that debate. ♪ let's hear it for the boy ♪
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